A clear distinction between Pattaya girls and regular Thai girls needs to be made if you value your mental health, your finances, and your reputation. Fun times with sexy ladies are guaranteed in sin-city, but long-term romantic success is best sought elsewhere.
There are tens of thousands of Thai girls searching for romantic adventures with western men online. You can easily find good-looking girls for casual sex and fun times, or someone suitable for something more serious with:
What Pattaya girls do offer you is the opportunity to recapture the glory days of your misspent youth… and then some!
The city is a firm favourite of
mine, and as long as Thailand is of interest to single men with sex on
their minds, Pattaya will probably always be a fun place to be.
The girls in Pattaya are the stuff of dreams if you just want a
casual holiday romance, but they can be the stuff of nightmares if you
allow yourself to get too emotionally involved, and don’t go thinking
that it can’t happen to you, it is much easier than you think.
NOTE: I am aware that there are some readers who will be a little
concerned at the tone of my writing here so let me clarify my position.
As regards the pay-for-pleasure industry, I neither promote it nor
condemn it, but it does exist and I’m not going to ignore it.
The arguments as to the morals of participating in this industry, or
not, are unclear in my opinion. My viewpoint is that consenting adults
are best placed to use their own judgement in deciding what is right for
There's no denying that the girls are the main attraction
that draws men to this particular city in Thailand. There is nowhere
else in Thailand to compete with this place when it comes to the ladies
who will happily entertain you, and they are the reason for so many
Yes, there are some decent beaches here and there, there is fantastic
weather for most of the year, there is lots of tasty food and there are
all manner of other attractions to keep you interested, but it is the
girls more than any other factor that really puts Pattaya on the map for
a fun-packed adventure or two.
If the beer-bars and a-go-go scene does not interest you, or if you are intending to meet a lady that won't expect a payment in the morning, it's worth having a look at the online dating sites for finding your lady-friends. I've given specific advice about this in my:
You can make do without my Mega-Book if you firmly restrict yourself to short-term fun. But, if you want to understand these girls, you'll definitely need to read up on Thai culture with respect to romance and dating.
What are Pattaya girls like?
I’m going to be absolutely clear at this point, it is the girlfriend experience (GFE) that Pattaya girls are best known for. It’s fairly self-explanatory but, just to be absolutely clear, the GFE refers to the type of service that working-girls provide i.e. it’s just as it would be with a regular girlfriend… without the nagging!
You can get a GFE from working-girls the world over but the difference is in terms of cost. In the west I’ve seen prices quoted in thousands of dollars for a single night’s entertainment. In Thailand you can find a very attractive lady for as little as 2,000 Thai Baht per day and for that she’ll treat you like a superstar!
Some gogo girls on pattaya's LK Metro.
Most western men think of a liaison with a prostitute as being a very sordid, business-like engagement where you can touch this, but you can’t touch that, this is allowed, but this isn’t, and so on. You can forget all that nonsense when you are in Pattaya.
I’m not saying that absolutely anything goes, but you can expect the same sort of intimacy that you would receive from a genuine girlfriend back home, and you’ll be treated with the utmost care and respect too.
It’s no wonder that so many men have fallen into the honey-trap of long-distance relationships with these ladies, some of them really do take care of your every whim when you are with them.
But you need to keep it real…
The trick is to utterly refuse to allow your ego to convince you that you really are a younger, better looking version of George Clooney. Never forget that you are in fantasy land when you visit this place, trouble is almost certainly in store for you if you allow your ego to get ahead of itself.
There are differences in the experiences that you’ll have with the working-girls depending on what type of bar you meet them in. I’ve given plenty of advice on that on my homepage and I recommend that you have a good read of the information there if you are planning a trip to Thailand anytime soon.
Some (not all) of the bar girls are so petite, sweet, and softly spoken that you’ll want to whisk them up, wrap them in cotton wool, and sing them to sleep with a lullaby... amongst other things that you’ll want to do with them!
As much as you might think that they share your attraction, some of the girls are not even heterosexual, and some have lesbian partners that work with them in the bars. Sometimes you’ll spot a girl go off to get the approval of her girlfriend before heading off with a customer.
In other cases the girl may be heterosexual, but she is married and her husband is fully aware of how she earns her money. If a girl is not married, she will still usually have a boyfriend hanging around somewhere in the background, no matter how much she denies it.
The fact is that she’s working when she’s with you, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t have a good time together, it just means that you shouldn’t fall in love!
Characteristics of Pattaya Girls
Pattaya is by far the largest and most popular destination for tourists seeking the pleasure of some female company, so here are some details about what sets Pattaya girls apart:
In appearance, many Pattaya girls tend to be a little shorter, more petite, and darker-skinned than the girls in other areas. Many girls originate from the Isaan province of Thailand where the people have some ancestry originating in Laos.
In some parts of Thailand you might be looked down upon if it becomes known amongst regular Thais that you have used the services of a working-girl. In Pattaya nobody will care in the slightest, which makes for a nice, stress-free environment.
The GFE is still going strong in Pattaya, but in some areas it is gradually being replaced by the more business-like type of engagement that you find with working-girls in the west.
It's up to your own personal preference as to whether or not you like your women to have darker or fairer skin but, in any case, you needn’t be too concerned as there are still plenty of fair skinned girls to choose from. You will certainly find someone that catches your eye and you will most probably feel like a kid in a candy shop with all the options available to you!
Some beer bars on an early evening in Pattaya.
You will even be able to find some Russian girls in Pattaya...
although I don’t personally recommend these ladies due to the very hefty
prices that they charge, and the unfriendly attitudes that some
One thing that a lot of Pattaya girls have in common is a
baby that's being taken care of by their parents in their hometowns.
This is quite a common thing and is often the reason why they are
working in the oldest of professions. Babies aren't cheap after all, and
with an absent father and expensive bills to pay, the money has to come
As an additional note, if you are attracted by the idea of getting up close and personal with some Pattaya girls, my advice is to make hay whilst it lasts. The naughty bar scene is not going to be here forever and I think that most guys would agree that the glory days of the late 90s and early 2000s are unlikely to return.
The Pattaya nightlife is still going strong, but it is not as bountiful as it once was...
Technology has played a big part in moving girls away from the bars; mobile phone cameras make many scared of being seen by someone back home, whilst online dating sites have created opportunities to find a western customer without the need to work in a bar at all.
These factors have led to declining numbers of girls in the bars, and ever rising prices asked by those who remain, although these prices are still way lower than comparable prices back home.
Pattaya Bar Girls & Their Bullshit...
We all know that
Thai bar girls have got something of a bad reputation for deceit and
disloyalty when it comes to their relationships with western men. The
bad rap that they get is well deserved and every day there’s another
might think that you are a good judge of character and that you know
when someone is not on the level, but it’s a lot harder to judge this
than you might think.
Modern technology is having a big impact on the bars in Thailand...
the best girls have always been reluctant to work in bars for fear of
being seen by someone from their hometowns, but there are lots of girls online at:
Your bullshit detectors are no doubt well-suited to life in the west, but there are not so many committed tricksters there whose livelihoods depend and fooling people into whatever fiction they have created.
|Disclaimer| Before I get accused of branding all bar girls as the same, that's not my point. Some of them are perfectly honest people, but they are a minority. My thoughts here serve as a good basis from which to prepare your expectations, that's all...
By way of example I’m reminded of a bar girl that I used to know.
On the surface she was ultra-sweet and feminine, unassuming, quiet and reserved. This sort of character in a girl just so happens to be my preferred character in a lady when seeking out a potential bed-partner, and so the two of us got along in the way that western guys and Pattaya girls do.
Months passed by with regular meet-ups between us, nothing serious just regular casual 'friend with benefits' type stuff. I’d been completely honest with the girl in question and made clear that I was the butterfly sort of guy and that nothing long-term would ever become of our time together.
Of course, I also made clear that she would be taken care of financially each time we met.
She was happy with the arrangement and was fully aware that I would, as the mood took me, spend time with other ladies. She was unusually candid with me too and openly admitted that there would be other western gentlemen who would be entertaining her from time to time.
A lesson learned...
Now, you might think that an admission of this sort is no admission at all since it was known to me that she worked in a bar and that this is what bar-girls do. Fair enough, but there aren’t that many bar-girls who will openly talk about such things.
Admittedly, the secrecy around this is fast becoming a thing of the past but at one time Thai bar girls kept this sort of thing concealed.
Anyway, months past until one day I got a call from her in the night. Her voice and character were completely off, I don't mean in a weird mood sort of way, I mean in a completely different personality sort of way.
She’d called me accidentally and as soon as she realized her mistake she hung-up. Apologies followed the next day but her game was up. It was unmistakably a ‘different persona’ that she was using when she called me by mistake.
I’d realized that the true character of the girl was a complete mystery to me. Within minutes of our first meeting, she had been able to form an instinctive idea of what sort of girls I like, and then simply assume a suitable persona...
Other than the mistaken phone call there was never, even for a second, any hint of deception! Some Pattaya girls are accomplished actresses, and once they figure out what sort of character to present to you they’ll stick to it and never break character.
I don’t harbor any negative feelings toward the girl and I wish her well, I just regarded the whole episode as another step forward on the learning curve that is Thailand.
Even when you think that you have a mutual understanding with a bar-girl, and that there is no reason in the world for her to deceive you, you’ll never quite know for sure if the person you’re dealing with is completely on the level.
Western guys back home can’t fully appreciate any of this, and that’s why they are always completely dumbfounded when they hear about another lamb to the slaughter in the form of a western guy that has gotten himself romantically involved with seemingly regular girl who just happens to be half his age, slim, and good-looking.
Some bar-girls on Soi 7
For those of us who have spent time in the bars, we tend to be only too aware of how easily this can happen. Most of us have been burned by a bar-girl at one time or another, and that’s despite the ferocity with which we might deny it!
The trick is to bail out the instant that you suspect something is amiss.
Bar-girls and marriage (an example)
I know of one man who is quite wealthy and had been married to his wife for over 5 years, during which time he had spent 5 million baht on a house for his wife’s parents, bought them a pick-up truck, and even provided money to set them up in a small restaurant business.
Due to his job being based in Europe, he lived in Europe with his Thai wife and after five years of marriage he discovered that his wife had been prostituting herself almost the entire time that they had been there!
There is no Western logic that can explain such things.
The particular guy in question was of similar age, and in much better shape than his overweight Thai wife. He was a gentle character and totally devoted to his girl, and her family, and this is how she behaved.
The nature of bar-work in the tourist areas of Thailand seems to destroy a girl’s ability to be a loyal and loving wife even when they are lucky enough to find a loyal and loving husband.
In her defense, where logic fails, emotions are usually to blame.
You can imagine how these girls usually enter the naughty nightlife scene - as naïve country girls who end up getting their hearts broken by one sex tourist after another with insincere promises of a new life and so on.
They respond by toughening up emotionally, and they stop trusting men altogether.
It’s an unfortunate situation and almost impossible to overcome with any promises that you might make, or even any expensive demonstrations of your true love. My advice is to avoid getting involved with any bar-girls. If you are committed to the idea of finding a worthy wife in Thailand, have a look at my Thai dating guide for some help.
For the most part Pattaya bar girls are a bunch of happy, friendly, fun-loving girls. You will enjoy their company, and they will make a big impression on you. Don't get carried away though, and always remember that when you are in Pattaya you are in fantasy land.
If you have never been to Pattaya before, I can almost guarantee that you will leave the place wondering if you have found your one true love, and you will almost certainly start planning your next trip to Thailand before you have finished your current trip!
However, you may be aware that most things here are not quite as they might at first appear, and this is especially true when it comes to romance with the ladies of Thailand.
If you are going to be enjoying the nightlife of sin city, most of the Pattaya bar girls that you will meet there are experts at working their way into a man’s affections.
If you get romantically involved with one of these ladies then, at some point, you’re going to have to ask yourself how likely it is that your new found love has really developed the affection for you that she will surely make you feel.
Is it really a coincidence that it just happens to be her game-plan to make her customers feel this way? Wait a moment I here you say, what game-plan am I talking about? Let me explain a little more about this...
The money that Pattaya girls make
Think about the typical salaries that the girls earn.
for a monthly bar-salary of no more than about 10,000 baht. Add to that
their share of the lady-drink mark-up and you are up to around
15,000 baht. Money from extra-curricular activities with the bar customers might bring in another
20,000 depending on the beauty of the girl (20,000 assumes one customer
every 3 days averaged over the year) making a total income of about
45,000 baht per month.
If you want to date a sexy, younger Thai lady that you can put your trust in, don't go looking for her at a bar. Thai bar girls can be lovely, but they're not great at loyalty... online dating is much safer, so check:
That's already excellent money compared to other unskilled work in Thailand.
But I’m not done yet, there is another income stream to consider i.e. they can also be getting money sent to them from overseas by previous customers! These guys are commonly referred to as ‘sponsors’. Do NOT become a sponsor… it’s a well-trodden path with nothing but trouble along it!
Many Pattaya girls are hoping to get involved with a Westerner who will 'sponsor' them. They might promise that a few thousand baht per month is all that they need to be able to stop their work and head back home to get a normal job and await your return.
In reality, the vast majority of beer-bar girls will string along as many unsuspecting western boyfriends as they possibly can with line of bullshit. It’s very unlikely that any realistic amount of money will be enough to make her stop her work in the sex trade.
The more she earns, the more she will want!
If a girl can get half a dozen boyfriends (sponsors) sending them as little as 8,000 baht per month each; that adds up to 48,000 baht on top of the 45,000 she earns herself. That's 93,000 baht per month in total, and many girls make a lot more than that.
It is not uncommon for some girls to be receiving upwards of 30,000 each month from a single sponsor and still the girl continues working!
The pay strategy for Pattaya bar girls
How exactly are these bar girls going to lure these sponsors in? Simple, by pretending to fall hopelessly in love with them, and doing absolutely everything they can to make sure that the customer has as good a time with them as is possible.
It's surprising how good they are at it.
Don't misunderstand me though; if you are looking for a girl to stick with for a few days, you will most likely be better off with Pattaya bar girls rather than a gogo girl or other prostitute. It is precisely because of the bar girl's game-plan that you will have the time of your life.
I'm not suggesting that all of the girls are the same, a tiny minority are genuine, lovely and loyal girls…. and that's part of the problem! You won't know if you've found your dream girl, or if you've just been tricked into thinking you have!
It really is best to play safe here, the number of girls with real long-term relationship potential are only a very small fraction of the total girls working in the bars.
Most Pattaya bar girls will cater for your every whim. They will take care of you in ways you won't expect. If you want to have a laugh with your drinking buddies, no problem, she'll sit patiently, and quietly, waiting for you. If you want her to join in with the laughter, she'll play along.
After you have finished your drinking session, and gone back to your hotel, your lady will happily indulge your every pleasure.
In the morning when you step out of the shower, don't be surprised if she is waiting for you so that she can dry you down with a towel. Whilst she is drying you, you will probably notice that all the clothes you threw on the floor are now neatly folded and stacked.
In short, Pattaya bar girls will make you feel that their only need in life is to be by your side where they can take care of all your needs. Enjoy the fantasy while it lasts, but don't let it go to your head or trouble will most likely be just around the corner.
Understanding & handling Pattaya bar girls
If you are new to Thailand/Pattaya, you might be amazed to know that
the sweet little angel you just spent a few passionate days with might
well already have a Thai boyfriend, or even a husband whom she loves!
more, the husband might know full well what his wife has been doing,
and be encouraging her to do it so that he can spend the money that you
have given her.
If you like your women to have a confident, talkative, outgoing sort of personality then you are particularly at risk of heartbreak with a Pattaya bar girl. Outside of Pattaya, and the other tourist areas, Thailand is a very conservative country. Most people, and especially young women, are naturally quiet, calm, shy and reserved.
Many bar girls are the opposite of this and have probably had a lot of experience with western men, and that means a lot of experience as a prostitute. It's a lifestyle that takes its toll, not just physically after all the drinking night after night, but also mentally.
It’s not easy maintaining a constant façade of happiness and friendliness!
Many Pattaya girls use drugs to keep themselves going, it's all bad news. Some girls enter the industry naive about the lifestyle that it will bring. At first the excitement of it all might be quite addictive but, after a few years of having their hopes dashed, they toughen up and become completely unsympathetic to the emotions of rich westerners who really ought to know better.
There are some beer bar chrome pole dancers…
If your girl is quiet and shy, and doesn't seem to know the ropes,
you might possibly have a chance of true love. If she is new to the job,
it is possible that her good nature is still intact, but be extremely
Tricksters are extremely difficult to spot.
you can keep your head thinking straight, you can have a fantastic
time. Treat these girls with respect, and always pay your dues. When the
time comes to move on, do it gently but firmly.
Whatever you do,
don't dump her for another girl who works at the same bar. This will
cause real jealousy, and rage, and it might well lead to violence. If
you start feeling any kind of emotional attachment, run like crazy!
is just too risky, in my opinion, to consider anything other than a
very short-term arrangement with a girl you meet in a bar.
Questions & Answers
I’m no fool; I know when a girl is being insincere with me. Isn’t the advice on this page just for less experienced men?
No, not at all, this advice is for everyone. If you only have experience of the ladies from your own country then you will almost certainly underestimate the ability of girls from a less fortunate background to lie convincingly.
Thai culture itself takes a less dim view of lying in certain circumstances e.g. where it is done to save-face or avoid conflict, so the aversion to lying that you get in Western culture is not felt so deeply in Thailand. Trust me when I tell you that simple little white lies are so commonplace in Thailand that you’ll start to wonder if you’ve ever been told the truth about anything.
Add to that the problem that your relationship might not be based purely on lies (she may well have some genuine feelings for you but at the same time she may have absolutely no intention whatsoever of being faithful to you) and you get a situation that is very difficult to read.
I stayed with a bar girl for 2 weeks and she never once asked me for any money, surely that proves that she is one of the good girls?
I’m not saying that she is not the genuine article, but something like this proves nothing about her true motives and it happens all the time. It is quite common for a bar girl to refrain from asking for cash, I’ve even heard of Pattaya girls that actually dig into their own pockets and help support their foreign boyfriends when they are short of cash.
None of this means that the girl involved is suitable for serious commitment. It may well mean that she has genuine affection for you, but don’t let that convince you that the girl is loyal and monogamous.
All my girl wants is to be with me in my country; we’ve spoken about getting a visa for her to come and stay with me and she can’t wait. How could this be a trick?
In some cases the whole point of getting close to a foreign boyfriend is so that she can get to your country. There is a common misconception that this is the secret desire of every Thai girl but that is nonsense; most Thai girls want to remain in Thailand, but there are some who want to get into the west.
It is a good sign if she wants to go with you to your country, but she could easily be lying about that. Even if she goes through with a visa application she can easily ruin it so as to get it declined.
It may even be a ploy to get you to marry her; a visa might not be possible if you are not married. I can tell you that lots of Pattaya bar girls would be more than happy to marry a customer for the financial support that it brings.
The girl I stayed with would have quit her job for me but she said that she didn’t have enough money for the bar release fee. I was suspicious, but the bar manager confirmed that there was a sizable fee that needed to be paid?
This is an instant red card offense; there is no such thing as a bar release fee. Thailand is a free country and the girls are free to come and go as they please. The ugly truth is that this whole release fee nonsense is a lie and, worse still, your lady is almost certainly in on that lie.
Whatever money you pay will be divided up between the bar manager and your girl!
Some people may tell you that, if she doesn’t pay the release fee, she won’t be able to work in a bar in the area again. Don’t believe that rubbish, the bars are all struggling these days to get as many girls as they want, so getting another job would be no problem whatsoever for her and she would almost certainly be able to return to the same bar if she wanted to.
You mentioned that online dating at your recommended sites is a better option for finding the good girls, but I know of someone that got scammed by a girl online. How safe is online dating?
Yes, it is a safer option but it is not completely safe as there are quite a few online tricksters. You even find that there are some Pattaya bar girls that go online to find potential boyfriends, so you can’t afford to just assume that everything you read online is the truth.
I’ve provided full details in my Thai Dating section about the best way to go about online dating. Of course, the best way of all is to come to Thailand for an extended visit somewhere away from the tourist areas. You’ll then meet girls in shopping malls and all sorts of places, and you can feel confident that the girls you meet will be the genuine article.
Sadly, this just isn’t an option for most guys because they have commitments back home, hence online dating is the best compromise.
Hanging out with Pattaya Hookers
There’s a lesson to be learned from Gandalf the Grey (of ‘Lord of the
Rings’ fame) and his statement to the effect that hobbits can
completely surprise you even after knowing them and their ways for many,
Now, I don’t know if Gandalf ever made it over to
Thailand for a steamy relationship or two with the ladies there, but he
could just as easily have been talking about Pattaya hookers as
hobbits when making that statement.
Pattaya sex services are still widely available.
When hanging out with bar
girls and other working-girls, there are about a million different
things that can happen to a man that will leave him scratching his head
and wondering what the hell has just transpired.
There are some size similarities with hobbits too; the number of cute little Thai girls you’ll find there is striking and I emphasize the phrase ‘little Thai girls’, they are usually tiny compared to the behemoths that pass for women in Farangland!
Freebies are not particularly uncommon in the Thai prostitution scene – if you receive one it does not mean that you have found the love of your life, it’s more likely that you have found someone who is playing the long game. Either that or you have found someone who is simply too ashamed to ask for payment.
In these circumstances it is nearly always a good idea to make sure you do pay her, otherwise you might end up with all sorts of trouble that you hadn’t anticipated e.g.:
Getting a reputation for non-payment (the other girls won’t touch you!)
Getting said prostitute’s Thai boyfriend angry (with a possible kicking)
Getting the girl thinking you are an item (meaning she will be a pain in the ass if you go off with another girl)
If you are dating an ex bar-girl and you get caught in the company of another girl, it is sensible to make sure that you have a reasonable excuse ready and waiting. It doesn’t need to be a watertight excuse just one that could feasibly be true. Small they may be, but Thai hookers can cause quite a commotion when the situation calls for it!
The point of the excuse is not to pull the wool over the girl’s eyes, because she will not believe a word of it anyway, but you will still have done the right thing and provided a face-saving way out of any potential conflict.
This won’t work if you are dating a respectable Thai lady, she will simply end your relationship right there and then, but a bar-girl will most likely accept it. She’ll keep an extra eye on you from there on in though.
This lying game works both ways of course… if you catch your girl in an incriminating situation, you can be sure that she will try to lie her way out of it. It is then up to you to decide whether or not to end the relationship or accept the lie.
Remember that the purpose of the lie is to save-face, it is not to deceive… Pattaya girls are not going to believe your lies and you shouldn’t believe theirs!
If the girl you are entertaining is still currently working as a bar-girl; don’t even bother to make excuses! Keep yourself firmly in the ‘customer’ classification and don’t let her think that you are anything more than that.
Tell her straight out that you are a ‘butterfly’ and whilst she’s doing what she must, you’ll be doing what you lust! She won’t like it, but deal with it head on and tell her straight.
Jealousy and loyalty is an issue with Pattaya girls that will startle you into disbelief. They are of the opinion that they are allowed to have sexual relations with multiple men because it is their job; you on the other hand are expected to be 100% faithful! Knock this nonsense on the head immediately and tell her how things are really going to be.
If you split with a girl, or even if she splits with you, you need to be careful if you run into her again sometime later. Pattaya prostitutes are not known for their forgiving attitude and even if she doesn’t want you anymore, that doesn’t mean you are allowed to stop wanting her…
Pattaya Sex Scene; changing times
By Arthur (from Pattaya)
The times are a
changing regarding the Pattaya sex scene. In the relatively short period
of time that I have been visiting the land of smiles (first visit Feb
2009) I have noticed a slight but definite shift in attitudes towards
I wouldn’t have bothered writing this submission if it was based purely
on my own experiences since I have been known to talk out of my ass
from time to time.
The vast number of Thai nightlife venues to choose from will give you plenty of opportunities to meet girls. But, if you prefer a more slow paced and intimate way of meeting ladies, you might be interested in checking out:
No, I’ve done my research and I can assure you, dear reader, that I’m not the only one that has noticed a change. In some quarters there is barely any other conversation other than the changing nature of the pay for pleasure (P4P) scene.
Some only see the negatives of this change and I do agree that overall there is an ongoing deterioration in the standard of service provided by Pattaya girls these days, but there are some positives too... depending somewhat on your perspective.
The most obvious change is with regard to the prices charged in the Pattaya sex industry; every year prices seem to rise significantly. Back in 2009 I had absolutely no trouble whatsoever in gaining the company of a sexy lady for no more than 1,000 baht per day.
These days most ladies want at least 2,000 baht for 'long-time'.
I’ve heard that there is some variation around Pattaya and that, just to the south in Jomtien, ladies can still be found for a little less but the prices I've given are the standard long-time prices on the popular sois in Pattaya.
Worse than the ongoing price rises is the fact that the best looking girls (who seem to be rarer and rarer on the Pattaya sex scene with every passing year) are increasingly refusing to go on ‘long-time’ excursions with their customers.
They prefer the ‘short-time’ model that most of the rest of the world employs as regards prostitution i.e. you pay for your pleasure and part company (and pay up) as soon as you have performed a single act – this is not the girlfriend experience (GFE) that in previous years set Pattaya apart as a real sex mongers paradise.
The reason for the ongoing shift from long-time to short-time is obvious; the best looking girls can easily get numerous customers in a single night and make a lot more cash in the process than sticking with one guy.
Now, with regard to finding a long-time girl, there may be some difference between different customers. I’m starting to be a known face around town and the girls know that they aren’t going to be snagging me as some sort of boyfriend that can be called upon to provide large sums of cash to solve whatever the family crisis of the day is.
For anyone new to the Pattaya sex scene that might not be the case, and the coveted long-time GFE might be easier to come across. Generally speaking though, there seems to be some consensus that it is slowly disappearing. I hear that in Bangkok this process is much more advanced and that the GFE is all but extinct.
The bad news doesn’t end here. Since the girls (at least with us regular customers) are less interested in bagging a boyfriend, they are also less interested in providing a quality service. I’ve actually noticed some really bad attitudes amongst some of the girls and I’m not the only one.
They are happy enough to accompany me, but gone are the ‘I take care you’ softly spoken caring ladies of previous years. Now it’s much more business like... not like it is in Europe, but also not like it used to be in the Pattaya sex industry of years past.
I’ve had girls that had agreed at the bar to stay with me long-time, and then leave after a short-time engagement. I’ve had girls tell me that, whilst they will go with me long-time, I must first spend half the night in their bar racking up an expensive bar bill.
I’ve even had girls that I regarded as friends i.e. girls that I’ve never taken out of the bar but for whom I have bought many drinks, left many tips and so on, give me the cold shoulder and silent treatment for no reason at all.
This sort of thing is not confined to Pattaya, I’m reliably informed that it is even worse in other tourist areas. The entire Thai sex industry just doesn’t feel like the same fun-packed experience that it used to be, it’s almost enough to make an old monger such as myself turn to regular online girls and their slower paced, traditional Thai attitudes towards intimacy and sex.
I do accept that this might not be the way that other people feel about it. I’d imagine that younger, first-time visitors will still have an absolutely fantastic time, but I suspect that once they see past the glitter they too will start to enjoy it less.
Soi 'Made in Thailand' is one of many Pattaya venues with lots of prostitutes.
Any sensible person
(which I’m not) would relatively quickly start to see only the façade
and none of the fantasy. At one time I only saw the fantasy, now it
feels as though I’ve glimpsed behind the curtain and seen the magic for
what it is.
Pattaya sex industry positive points
With all the changes going on in a developing country, only a fool would expect things to stay the same. I mentioned earlier that it is not all bad news and I stand by that statement. It’s just that where some things have deteriorated, other new opportunities for adventure are springing up.
In particular, the spread of mobile telephones (much despised by us traditional Pattaya sex mongers) with WiFi access means that girls can easily find customers without the need for displaying themselves as obvious prostitutes in the bars.
This point matters – most girls would be deeply ashamed to become a topic of gossip in their hometowns and, with cameras all over the place, there are a lot of girls skipping the bar scene altogether and turning to online opportunities. That doesn’t appeal much to me, but the younger generation seem to be doing very nicely out of it.
The online dating options also provide the best opportunity to find a decent holiday girlfriend at a price that you can afford. You'll need a hefty war chest if you manage to find a bar girl for a couple of weeks, but an online girl should be much more reasonable about money.
Another positive point about the Pattaya sex scene is that it is a much more wholesome scene. Service levels may have declined, but the bar girls do exercise a great deal more power now than they used to. They are in hot demand and the bars need them more than the other way around.
I know of one bar on soi 7 that continually loses the girls that work there because the girls feel mistreated by the Thai lady owner. Girls can leave a bar and immediately find work in a nearby bar these days, so there is much less exploitation. The girls are also less likely to take any crap from a customer...
Speaking of exploitation, the Thai authorities have done an excellent job of stopping the underage Pattaya sex industry in its tracks. It is increasingly rare to find underage Thai girls working in Pattaya these days and those that do slip under the radar only do so by looking older.
The outright pedophile circuit of perverts looking to exploit children is invisible to my eyes. It probably hasn’t been driven out altogether (where in the world is it completely absent?) but the Thai authorities have done a very good job at driving it out.
All in all, there are good points and bad points, but the Pattaya sex industry survives and, as far as I can tell, it will continue to survive for the foreseeable future. If I’ve given the impression that I, in my dotage, am sick of it then I’ve misrepresented my position. I still love the place really...
Where to find the girls
The nightlife in Pattaya is literally crawling with opportunities to meet girls, and you don’t need to limit yourself to any particular location because the whole city is one big hunting ground for horny guys!
With that said, most pleasure seekers like to do their hunting in the best nightspots for bars and clubs, so here are my top suggestions:
Walking Street – This is the largest of the many nightlife destinations and it is packed solid with all sorts of establishments. Some of the best gogo bars are here, but where this place excels is in discos/nightclubs.
Soi 6 – If you like to get some action during daylight hours then there is no better location to find it than soi 6. It specializes in brief encounters that traditionally happen on the premises…
Soi 7 – One of the best locations in the city in times past is Soi 7 (and Soi 8 right next door). These days it isn’t so busy but there are still some good looking bar girls here, most of whom would be happy to become your holiday girlfriend.
LK Metro – Once you’ve spent any time in Pattaya you’ll come to realise that the best value gogo bars are to be found here. This soi is less popular with Chinese tour groups and backpackers, while being a firm favourite of expats.
Soi Buakhao – The big growth area in Pattaya is around Soi Buakhao. Property nearer to the beach is expensive, and prices are higher, so many bars are moving inland. Soi Buakhao is good value and packed with variety.
There are a least half a dozen other worthy locations that I’ve not listed here, and if you want to see the full list then click here.
Pattaya girl prices & a quick roundup
Okay, no doubt you're wondering what the price of true love costs in Pattaya, so here's a rough guideline of Pattaya girl rates heading into 2020. Note that these are 'short-time' prices; if you want a Pattaya girl for a week, or just until the next morning, then that would be classed as a long-time service. For that you'd need to pay an extra 500 to 1,000 baht per day, additional to all the other daily costs, for most girls:
Here are the key points to remember about Pattaya:
The Fun Factor - you'll have different experiences with the ladies that you'll meet here depending on their preferred method of extracting your cash from you! Beer bar girls provide the best service, gogo girls are the best looking.
The Risk Factor - I have found that Pattaya is a very safe place if you behave in a respectful manner. If you are an idiot or a loudmouth thug, I'd go elsewhere or you'll end up upsetting the wrong person at some point.
Expenses - the P4P scene comes at a much lower cost than in the west, and especially so if you intend to spend a few days with a lady. In Pattaya you'll find far more opportunities for this sort of thing than anywhere else in Thailand.
Emotions - whilst the threat of violence is minuscule for well-behaved guys, the threat of falling head over heels in love is very real. Don't think that it can't happen to you if you've never experienced the tender overtures of these sirens.
Comparisons - the sheer size of the Pattaya nightlife scene ensures that nowhere else in Thailand, or the world for that matter, has as many ladies that will be delighted to entertain you.
Pattaya girl booking, 'bar-fine' mechanics
You may have heard of the term ‘bar-fine’ before and wondered what it means - you'll soon find out if you ever visit sin city!
Basically it is a Pattaya girl cost element that is paid directly to a bar for acquiring the services of one of the girls that work there. If you want to head off with the girl, the bar will need to be compensated for releasing their employee to you. It has nothing to do with the payment that your chosen lady will want for her services, that is strictly between the two of you and nothing to do with the bar.
There are several different scenarios whereby you may be asked to pay a bar-fine, but it is only a legitimate request if it applies to a girl who works in the bar. The bar is after all paying her wages, and they aren't doing that so that she can head off with you, they want her working in the bar pulling in customers, serving beers, and so on. So the bar-fine is a release fee... or is it?
Even if you meet another customer in a bar, there are some that will want to charge you if you decide to leave together. In that case it would be a fee for having provided a meeting place. On one occasion I met a fellow Englishman in a bar and played a few games of pool with him. 20 minutes later the bar manager was asking if we would like to pay a bar-fine to leave together!
This nonsense is, of course, totally unenforceable and totally unreasonable.
Politely decline to pay if you want to take a companion out of a bar if she doesn't actually work there. It does depend somewhat on the venue as to whether or not you'll be asked to pay in these circumstances - discos certainly won't charge you, and neither will the larger freelancer bars, but some of the smaller beer-bars might try a more opportunistic approach.
Pattaya Girlfriends; Cultural Differences
As with all Thai girls, Pattaya girls have some quite unique cultural
values. Believe it or not, some of them can be quite shy! They are not
raised in a way that leads naturally to an outgoing extroverted
character, and the nature of sex in Pattaya is representative of the
extent of the prostitution scene there - it doesn't represent the more
traditional areas of the country.
A Pattaya lady waiting for customers.
Whilst the ladies you’ll meet in the bars are readily available for sex, regular Thai ladies do not jump straight into bed with western guys at the first opportunity - contrary to popular belief!
If you decide to spend some time with a Thai girl, and you find her to be very outspoken, outgoing, and confident, it's a sign that she may have been working in a bar for a while and gotten used to liaising with westerners.
Saying goodbye to your Pattaya girlfriend
Experienced hands in the Thailand expat community have no trouble keeping their emotions in check and parting with a lady without any real heartache, but that’s usually because they’ve been burned a time or two already. For newbies, no matter how hard you try to avoid it, these ladies will work their magic and be tugging at your heart-strings when the time comes to say goodbye.
After your first week in Pattaya you will most likely find one particular girl who you like above all others, and you will probably spend the rest of your holiday with her.
Be especially careful here, she will probably want to see you off at the airport, and she may have tears in her eyes when the two of you part company. It is all too easy to start a long distance relationship from that point on, but I’m afraid that the success rate of these relationships is extremely low.
If you are the sort of fellow who can learn from the romantic mistakes of other guys without needing a few train-wreck relationships of your own to teach you how things are, you're a lucky man indeed. You’re also a in a minority, most guys need to be really careful.
My general advice is to buy a new telephone/sim card when you arrive in Pattaya, and bin it on departure. It makes for a nice clean break when you have thrown away your only means of contacting the girls you meet in the bars of Pattaya.
Why would you want to end contact? Because as wonderful as your experience undoubtedly was, the chances are that it is best left in Thailand. Your girl's sadness at losing you may well have been genuine, it probably was if you felt it was, but the whole experience is based on a fantasy.
That's not to say that a full-time relationship or even a marriage can't work, it can, but you do need to be aware of the huge culture gap. You need to make sure that your girl's dreams are the same as yours and, sadly, that is not often the case.
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You will no doubt be aware of the large number of ‘Thai girl done me
wrong’ stories out there, and many are completely true. It's not that
Pattaya girls are morally corrupt (although a life of bar work will take
its toll), it is usually necessity that is driving their actions. This
is especially true if she has poor parents and a baby of her own that
needs taking care of.
In Thailand, where there is not much of a
welfare system, the women take their family responsibilities extremely
seriously. Sacrificing their innocence in order to take care of the
family is not a step that they want to take, it is a step that necessity
In these circumstances you should expect that a
lady will have little concern for the emotional turmoil that she may or
may not be inflicting on a western guy who really should know better -
especially if the girl is beautiful and half his age!
She will say
what she must, to earn what she needs, and the sheer number of suicides
in Pattaya that occur when reality kicks in is astounding - so don't
let it happen to you!
Many men have ended up losing friends,
family, fortunes and more. Virtually all of these men started out with
the same mindset that you might have right now i.e. that Pattaya girls
are working-girls and there's no chance on this planet of ever forming
an attachment to such a lady.
The reason why so many western men
fall into this trap is because they can’t reconcile their own instincts
with the typical deceptions that are employed by Pattaya girls. Click here for the latest example of how badly these relationships can end...
western instincts are often based on rules of conduct that just don’t
apply in a Buddhist country like Thailand, where the girls that you’ll
come into contact with may have had to face economic hardship the like
of which we in the west never face.
There is no better teacher
than necessity, and it has taught Thailand’s working-girls to lie
convincingly like nothing you can imagine, so don’t get lulled in by
their words or deeds.
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